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<Stephen> Firebug is nice, I also like the Web Developer Toolbar
Plus I've never really forgiven it for having a name so similar to 'Java' that most people (if they think about this stuff at all) group them into a box together when they actually have very little at all to do with each other except for some syntactical similarities.
<Brennen> I was still thinking this sort of thing regularly not all that long ago, but it seems like we turned some kind of corner around a year ago, to where I now use stuff routinely (gmail, reddit, flickr) that has a coherent rationale for the dynamic client-side stuff.
There's also still something pretty nuts about the technological hoop-jumping it takes to do interesting stuff on the web. Sure, AJAX can do amazing things, and I can see it fitting into this model pretty elegantly (for some values of "elegant"). This doesn't change the fact that the whole thing is a ridiculous hack.
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last edited April 5, 2007